THE WELSH PONY AND COB SOCIETY
MINUTES OF THE COUNCIL MEETING HELD AT THE INTERNATIONAL
PAVILION, ROYAL WELSH SHOWGROUND, BUILTH WELLS AT 12.30
p.m. ON FRIDAY, 1ST SEPTEMBER, 2006
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PRESENT
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Mr. L. Bigley (Chairman);
Miss S.M. Hardy (Vice-Chairman); Dr. E.W. Davies
(Publicity Officer); Mrs. W. Bond; Mr. M.T. Daley, Mrs.
E.E. Dart; Mr. E.T.E. Davies; Mrs. M.C. Edwards; Lady
Evans-Bevan; Mrs. C. Fell; Mr. S Franklin; Mrs. E R
French; Mrs. P. Howells; Miss L. Hutchins; Mr. IT. Kirk;
Mrs. D. Jones; Mr. G. Jones; Mr. W.G. Jones; W. Lloyd; Mr.
D. Morgan; Mr. J. Parry; Miss R. Philipson-Stow; Mrs. J.
P. Price; Mr. J.A. Russell;, Miss J Sheil; Mr. JK.
Spenser; Mr. P. Wilding-Davies and D. Ll. Williams.
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IN ATTENDANCE
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The Chief Officer/Secretary
and Deputy Secretary. |
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APOLOGIES
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Apologies for inability to
attend the Meeting were received from: Mr. M.C. Johnston
(President); Mrs. M.E. Mansfield (President-Elect); Mrs.
K.A. James, Mr. AJ. Jones, Mrs. R. Mills, Mr. E.G.
Prosser; and Mrs. D. Thomas. |
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OBITUARY |
The Chairman informed
members of the passing of Mrs. Pat Holmes, of the USA, a
Life Member of the Society.
Members stood in
silent tribute to her memory. |
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PROXY VOTE |
The Chief
Officer/Secretary reported that she had received
authorisation for two proxy
votes: Mrs. D. Thomas
requested Mrs. P. Howells to vote on her behalf. Mr. E.
Prosser confirmed that |
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AGENDA |
The Chairman of Council
sought permission to deal with the Minutes of the Meeting
held on 6th July, 2006 as this was not an Agenda item. |
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6885 |
Mr. M.T. Daley moved that
the Minutes of 6th July, 2006 be ratified prior to
receiving the Minutes of the 7th August, 2006 and prior to
receiving the Report of the Working Group. |
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Members agreed. |
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CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES |
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Minutes of the Meeting held
on 6th July, 2006 having been circulated were duly
confirmed and signed subject to the following corrections: |
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Page 9
Mrs. D. Leyson (Ref.Min. 6863(i)) |
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Mr. K. Spenser wished to
have the Minutes corrected to show that he also retired
from the Meeting when requested to do so with Miss R. Philispon-Stow, P. Wilding-Davies and Deputy Secretary |
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MATTERS ARISING FROM THE
MINUTES |
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6886 |
(i)
Governance Review Report - Presentation bv Ms P. Woods (Ref.Min.
6857) |
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Mr. E.T.E. wished it
recorded that the accompanying paperwork, i.e. the
Consultant's Review and the decisions arrived at by
Council on 6th July, 2006 be taken as part of the Minutes. |
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The Deputy Secretary replied
that the Minutes indicated that these would be attached
and filed as part of the signed Minutes. |
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CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES |
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Minutes of the Meeting held
on 7th August, 2006 having been circulated were duly
confirmed and signed, subject to the following correction: |
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The venue be amended to
show The Lion Hotel, Builth Wells. |
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MATTERS ARISING FROM THE
MINUTES |
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6887 |
(i)
Circulation of Report (Ref.Min. 6880) |
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Mr. E.T.E. Davies wished it
recorded that whilst the Minute was correct, he had not
realised at the time that the Minutes of 6th July, 2006
were not forward for ratification and that the papers
referred to were the Recommendations with regard to the
Governance Review and the decisions arrived at by Council
at their Meeting held on 6th July, 2006. |
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(ii)
Terms of Election to Council (Ref.Min. 6881(iv(a)) |
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Mr. M.T. Daley stated that
there was no proposer or seconder recorded and he wished
to have this information. He would also place before
Council conflict of interest issues relating to the
Minutes of 6th July and Governance Review presented to
Council on the 6th July. The conflict of interest referred
to those people who had voted for this procedure. |
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Mr. E.T.E. Davies queried
what had been voted upon and what did the Chairman give
his casting vote on. |
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Members considered the
matter in some detail and Mr. M.T. Daley read out a
statement to members present. He finished by stating that
the procedure that followed as open to challenge. |
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The Chairman offered to
resign forthwith and that juncture the Chairman left the
room while further discussion took place. The
Vice-Chairman took the Chair in the absence of Mr. Bigley. |
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Members discussed the
matter further and a number of members also offered their
resignations. Considerable discussion ensued with the
Vice-Chairman reminding members that they should refrain
from making personal remarks. |
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The Deputy Secretary stated
that if she had made an error in the recording of the
Minutes this could be dealt with by a proposal being made
to that effect and a correction recorded. She also stated
that at times it was very difficult to follow the meeting
due to members talking across each other. |
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Mr. M.T. Daley stated that the solution would be to rescind the
illegal ballot and revert back to the decision of 6th
July, 2006. |
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The Chief Officer/Secretary stated that she had sought legal advice
with regard to the changing of the Resolution and the
ballot and the action taken had not been illegal. In fact,
Council could change their minds up until the EGM Agenda
went into print. The solicitor had also brought up the
question of proxy voting being included in the Society's
memorandum and Articles of Association. |
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Mr. E.T.E. Davies wished
the following comments to be minuted. Ms. P. Woods put
forward that it should have been six years on and six
years off. Some things he agreed with, some he did not.
Council decided not to accept the six years off and agreed
to 6 years on and 3 years off. It will be said that
Council only wanted 1 year off because they would then
only be off for 1 year before coming forward for
re-election. For the sake of credibility, forget
personalities and rescind the Resolution of 7th August,
2006 and go back to 6 years on and 3 years off. Mr. Davies
also wished it recorded that at the previous meeting he
voted for 3 years off. Let everyone here today show what
they voted for at the previous meeting and be willing to
be named. |
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Further discussion took
place and the Chairman was invited to re-join the Meeting. |
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Members also then referred
to comments on the Internet and the question of Council
members responding to the comments put forward. |
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Mr. E.T.E. Davies proposed
that the Resolution relating to the ballot vote be
rescinded and that Council refer back to the original
agreement. The proposal was seconded by Mr. M.T. Daley and
with 17 votes in favour (including 2 proxy), 10 votes
against and 1 abstention |
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IT WAS RESOLVED |
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That the two Resolutions
referring to the ballot vote on the top of page 3 of the
Minutes be rescinded and that Council revert back to the
original Resolution of having 6 years on Council with 3
years off before being eligible for re-election. |
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After the vote had taken
place Miss J. Sheil proposed that member should be on
Council for 4 years and off for 2 years. There was no
seconder to the proposal. |
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(iii)
EGM Agenda 2006 (Ref.Min. 6881(vii)) |
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Miss L. Hutchins voiced
concern with regard to the time allowed for the Forum
prior to the EGM and felt that this was not sufficient. |
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On the proposal of Miss R.
Philipson-Stow that the time scale approved at the Meeting
held on 7th August, 2006 be amended. The proposal was
seconded by Miss L. Huitchins and |
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IT WAS RESOLVED |
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That the Forum would take
place from 10.30 a.m. to 12.30 a.m. with the EGM
commencing at 1.30 p.m. |
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Before breaking for tea the Chairman apologised for anything that had
been done at the last meeting and there must have been a
mistake somewhere as there had been a
proposer and seconder at the time. He was here to serve
the Council but would resign if members so wished. |
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Members of Council agreed
that the Chairman should not resign. |
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Mr. J. Parry stated that
there was confusion at the last meeting and he felt sure
that there was no implication involved. |
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At this juncture and after
speaking to the Chairman of Council the Deputy Secretary
retired from the Meeting due to ill-health. Mr. J.K.
Spenser also tendered his apologies and left the meeting. |
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REPORT OF A MEETING OF THE
COUNCIL WORKING PARTY ON 30th AUGUST 2006 |
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The Chairman submitted a
report as printed. |
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MATTERS ARISING FROM THE
REPORT |
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6888 |
(i) Council Elections
Information Booklet |
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The working party had been
asked to review the Job Description for Council members
which would be sent out with the nomination papers and EGM
notice. Council members had been supplied with an A5
information booklet which contained all the information.
Council members agreed the A5 information booklet for
inclusion. |
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(ii) Nomination Forms |
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The Chief Officer confirmed
that the nomination forms required the signature of the
nominee and that additional checks would be made to ensure
that individuals nominated were willing to stand for
election. On the proposal of Miss. R. Philipson-Stow and
seconded by Mrs. J. Price |
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IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY
RESOLVED |
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That any person wishing to
stand or be re-elected to Council must be proposed and
seconded by current paid up members. |
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(iii) Sub-Committees |
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The Chairman reported that
the working party had been drafting a proposed committee
structure and that it was still in the early stages. He
gave a brief overview of the direction the working party
was taking and stated that the working party would
continue to update Council as it progressed. |
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(iv) EGM Notice |
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Council discussed the
resolutions in depth. Queries were raised regarding
special resolution 3 and regards to the hypothetical
situation if a Council member retired or was dismissed in
the middle of their term and it was felt that the
resolution needed to be refined to ensure that under such
circumstances an individual would be considered to have
served a full term. The Chief Officer agreed to discuss
this with the solicitor and if such an expansion of the
resolution were possible then a postal ballot would be
conducted of the Council to ratify it. |
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Discussion arose around the
language not being gender neutral. The Chief Officer
clarified that the resolutions had been worded to
complement the style of the current Memorandum and
Articles of Association. It was highlighted by Mr. P.
Wilding-Davies that the word "Company" should therefore be
replaced with "Society". On the proposal of Mr. M.T. Daley
and seconded by Mr. J. Parry |
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IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY
AGREED |
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That, subject to the
above points, the EGM notice for the 14th October 2006, at
the Food Hall, Royal Welsh Showground, Builth Wells at
1:30pm be agreed. |
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Further discussion ensued
regarding the resolutions and whether they should voted on
individually or taken as a package. On the proposal of Mr.
J. Parry and seconded by Miss. R. Philipson-Stow and with
26 votes in favour and 1 abstention it was resolved that: |
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The special resolutions
would be voted on separately. |
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ANY OTHER BUSINESS |
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6889 |
(i)
Hill Improvement Societies
Meeting, February 7th 2006 |
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The report was accepted and |
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IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY
RESOLVED |
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That the recommendations in
the report be accepted. |
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(ii) Council Minutes |
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Following a discussion and
on the proposal of Mr. E.T.E Davies and seconded by Mr. S.
Franklin it was unanimously resolved that: |
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An outline report in
bullet point form would be posted on the Society's website
within 10 working days of a Council meeting. A copy of the
ratified minutes would be posted the next working day
following the meeting at which they were ratified. |
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(iii)
Judges Insurance |
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Mr. Franklin agreed to
conduct further research into insurance for Society
judges. |
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(iv) Dr. E.W. Davies
queried whether during the AGM Council members should make
it clear when they were giving their own personal opinion.
He highlighted comments by Mrs. P. Howells in regards to
breed type. Mrs. Howells responded and clarified that they
had been her own opinion and she would be happy to clarify
this at the next AGM if there was any confusion. |
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The Meeting closed at
4:10pm |
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This report is prepared
solely for the purposes of the Council Meeting. It is
private and confidential to members of the Council. It
must not be reproduced or disclosed to any other
individual except by express authority of the Council. |
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The remarks made by any
specific members of Council as reported in these Minutes
are their personal views and opinions and not the views
and opinions of the Society unless ratified by the
Society. |